'is dated' from .... (2025)

It is thought the treasure

from the 13th century.

Hi friends, I wrote this sentence to make that sentence equal in meaning ;

It is thought to date from 13th century.

I wonder I am mistaken or not?

ortak said:

It is thought the treasure

is dated

from the 13th century.

Hi friends, I wrote this sentence to make that sentence equal in meaning ;

It is thought to date from 13th century.

I wonder I am mistaken or not?

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You are correct. This is perfect! The first sentence may be also, but I prefer the second.
Bigote

ortak said:

It is thought the treasure

is dated

from the 13th century.

Hi friends, I wrote this sentence to make that sentence equal in meaning ;

It is thought to date from 13th century.

I wonder I am mistaken or not?

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I'm afraid that I wouldn't accept either as correct. You should change them as follows, in my view:

It is thought the treasure is dated dates from the 13th century.
It is thought to date from the 13th century.

As we discussed in the other thread, you'd be better putting:

The treasure is thought to date from the 13th century.

Thomas Tompion said:

I'm afraid that I wouldn't accept either as correct. You should change them as follows, in my view:

It is thought the treasure is dated dates from the 13th century.
It is thought to date from the 13th century.

As we discussed in the other thread, you'd be better putting:

The treasure is thought to date from the 13th century.

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Thomas is correct. I missed the "the" Good catch, Thomas! Bigote.

Why the is relevant with the use of is dated ? Bigote, why did you give up your idea?

dated (adj) (old-fashioned) belonging to a time in the past.
(Oxford Advanced Dictionary)

and I didn't see any similar use of it in my dictionary as ; is dated, etc..

JamesM said:

The only condition where "is dated from" would make more sense to me would be if there was some disagreement about its age. If some scholars said it came from the 13th century while others said it came from the 14th century, "is dated from" would make sense to me.

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Yes, good point. "Dates" implies certainty, while "is dated" leaves the possibility open of differing "datings."

MJRupeJM said:

"Dated" is not an adjective here, but rather a verb ("is dated") in the present tense. I agree with Thomas that the the active "dates" is more appropriate than the passive "is dated."

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Oh, yes exactly

JamesM said:

The only condition where "is dated from" would make more sense to me would be if there was some disagreement about its age. If some scholars said it came from the 13th century while others said it came from the 14th century, "is dated from" would make sense to me.

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Can you make a sentence with is dated which refers to the same meaning you think. I understand better in this way

ortak said:

Why the is relevant with the use of is dated ? Bigote, why did you give up your idea?

dated (adj) (old-fashioned) belonging to a time in the past.
(Oxford Advanced Dictionary)

and I didn't see any similar use of it in my dictionary as ; is dated, etc..

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Ortak,
I didn't give up my idea. I simply failed to see you forgot to include the "the", which is required in the sentence. I see you have received other excellent suggestions.
Bigote